D.B. Woodside was first launched in Lucifer as Lucifer’s stoic and mysterious angelic brother, however over time he’s changed into a fan favourite. Amenadiel, certainly one of God’s most loyal angels, has change into an integral a part of the group as he’s gone on his personal journey of self-discovery over the seasons.
The next interview incorporates spoilers for the ultimate season of Lucifer.
On this ultimate season of Lucifer, we see Amenadiel becoming a member of the LAPD as a beat cop, as he promised to do within the finale of Season 5, expertise the corruption of the pressure and attempt to fight it, and in the end rising to the best place in our universe. Alongside the best way, D.B. Woodside, himself, has directed an episode within the ultimate season, and I spoke with him about directing, about being within the business, about Amenadiel’s ultimate arc, and in regards to the adjustments he’s seen alongside the best way.
Therese Lacson: I actually cherished Amenadiel’s arc on this ultimate season. I actually favored his storyline with Officer Harris, and in the end making an attempt to undo a few of the corruption that has been occurring inside their police division, what was your response to studying that this may be your arc for Amenadiel this season.
D.B. Woodside: I used to be somewhat nervous about that, given the local weather, given my very own private historical past with the police. So I used to be somewhat nervous, I needed to make it possible for we weren’t going to gloss over it. As a lot as I cherished the episode that we did within the fourth season that was coping with the police, I type of felt like what occurred in that episode, you already know, I’ll be sincere, for me as a black man on this nation, it was somewhat disappointing.
I like the episode, love the writing as a result of Jason Ning is certainly one of my favourite writers and clearly I like Claudia [Yarmy], however I want we’d have tackled the police brutality somewhat bit extra. Now that being stated, that’s what I used to be somewhat nervous about with this one. I feel [that] individuals have been positively receptive to my enter. And I can’t wait to see it. I haven’t seen the episode but however I’ve heard some actually nice issues. This episode was written by Ildy [Modrovich] who’s additionally one other nice author and once more, directed by my favourite, Claudia. So, I’m actually going to have an interest to see how individuals really feel about this, significantly black and brown people.
Therese: I’m positively to see the discourse round it. I actually favored that it didn’t simply happen inside that one episode and that it continued on all through the season and it brought about a change throughout the division.
So, one other massive facet of Amenadiel’s character progress has been about being amongst the individuals, serving to them, and understanding them. The place do you assume this love for humanity comes from, particularly because it appears so uncommon compared to a few of his different siblings, who simply type of settle for that humanity exists?
D.B.: I feel he had an actual downside. I imply, going all the best way again to the start of the present, he actually noticed people as pets, as simply one thing not even to be taken severely. Possibly a part of that was due to his, we could name it, certainly one of his superpowers, is to cease time. So, he’s by no means needed to work together with people and his personal energy saved him other than humanity. I feel as soon as he loses his powers and he’s compelled to dwell amongst them, he begins to embrace his personal humanity. I feel by residing as a human, by having relationships with people, friendships with people, it’s really compelled him to develop. And I feel it’s a results of that, that he’s determined to type of come again and run the household enterprise as I prefer to say.
Therese: So talking of the household enterprise, dipping into spoilers territory, on the finish of the season, we realized that Amenadiel has taken the place as God. How do you assume his time with humanity has ready him for this place? And the way did you react while you learn that that was going to be how the story ends.
D.B.: I used to be completely satisfied. I knew that was going to be how the story ended final season. This was one thing that we had talked about. I’m glad it ended that approach I’m going to be sincere, I’d have been upset if it had not ended that approach. I feel that Amenadiel has been arrange your complete present, as the suitable angel to take over for his father. I feel Lucifer is phenomenal. I feel he’s incredible. I nonetheless don’t assume, even with all of his progress, that that’s the profession path for him, shall we embrace. And that’s simply me saying that with love.
Therese: I imply, he does spend the entire ultimate season determining how you can love the remainder of humanity, so I don’t blame you for that.
D.B.: Sure, I feel all of us have our particular presents, proper? And I don’t assume being God is Lucifer’s. However I feel Amenadiel has been groomed for this place since he was created. He’s probably the most loyal. I all the time joke about that complete ‘he’s the favourite’ however I feel I like to essentially see it as, he’s simply the one which has actually targeted in on what it takes to be a greater angel. A greater celestial. And I feel that is one thing that his father had been engaged on for all of Amenadiel’s existence. I feel as soon as he realized that he didn’t must run the household enterprise the best way his father ran it and that he might run it the best way that he noticed match, the best way that he thinks humanity must progress. I feel he realized, ‘Okay that is the job that I used to be created for, I simply must make it my very own.’
Therese: I actually loved the best way that it ended with Lucifer and Amenadiel and the way they altered the best way that issues are presupposed to be accomplished. It doesn’t all the time must be accomplished the identical approach and rehabilitation is feasible. I additionally favored the scene when Amenadiel approaches God’s throne and it flashes and he’s amongst his siblings as a substitute of sitting above them.
D.B.: I actually cherished that too. It has such a Knights of the Spherical Desk really feel, that, sure, Arthur is king. However when he involves the roundtable, he’s simply as equal as each single one of many knights, and so they all have an element on this kingdom. So, I feel Amenadiel sees that as all of his siblings have an element in how we transfer humanity ahead. I simply assume that’s highly effective. It’s lovely. And dare I say, it’s somewhat little bit of what we’d like on this nation proper now.
Therese: Positively. I additionally needed to ask you about what it was like directing one of many episodes of the season, “Save the Satan, Save the World.” After working so lengthy in entrance of the digital camera, what was it prefer to step into the footwear of the director?
D.B.: I completely cherished it. I imply, I’ve stated this earlier than, I’ll say it once more, it was probably the most difficult job that I’ve ever had nevertheless it was additionally probably the most rewarding. Yeah, I don’t know if we’re allowed to say this, I’m gonna attempt to say it as respectfully and with as a lot humility as attainable: It’s one thing that I’m superb at. I need to do much more of it and I feel it’s taken a very long time for me to have the ability to present people who that is one thing that I need to do, that I’m good at, and I need to be taken severely.
I’ll even go as far as to say this, I feel that the best way Hollywood is altering, I don’t assume I’d, would have been given this chance two years in the past, and there’s one thing about that that’s a.) maddening, and b.) unhappy. I don’t assume what lots of people know or perceive is, I’ve been directing for over 20 years. I simply haven’t accomplished it on an enormous splashy tv present as a result of it’s been hellish making an attempt to get individuals to see me in a different way.
So, I’m very, very grateful to this present. There have been people who have been working over time to present me the chance to show myself, and it’s a combat, it’s only a fixed combat. I really feel like now that I’ve gotten that one underneath my belt, I assumed that’s all it will take, however now I’ve to proceed preventing for the subsequent job. So, I loved it totally. It’s actually rewarding. And I positively need to accomplish that way more of it. So, fingers crossed.
Therese: Sure, I’d positively like to see no matter different tasks you may have sooner or later. And I hope that you just get extra of these alternatives, as a result of it was an ideal episode. and I you already know I can solely say good issues about it. Sadly, as an individual of colour myself who studies on this business, I’ve heard that quite a bit. It’s powerful, and there’s not a variety of doorways open. And even when there are doorways open, different doorways are closing on the similar time.
D.B.: There’s this factor going round now, the place you may have so many of those brokers which might be telling their purchasers that the rationale why they’re not working proper now could be as a result of all of those range hires. And but, in the event you have been to speak to us, that’s not occurring. So, I personally want that these that these brokers would cease mendacity to their purchasers, and simply say the reality. It’s nonetheless onerous for us out right here. I’m somebody that’s been within the enterprise for 25 years, and I simply completed directing my first present. I feel that’s completely ridiculous that it’s taken that a lot and this lengthy to lastly have the ability to direct one episode of a tv present. And the truth that it continues to be this combat and this uphill battle is exasperating. It’s completely mad for all of us, not simply me, for all of us.
Therese: I positively agree, however I’m glad to see that you’ve got gotten this chance. Actually, I used to be shocked to see you within the director’s chair as a result of I didn’t know you additionally directed, so, possibly the intense facet of this shall be as a approach for individuals to find this facet of your profession.
D.B.: Out of your lips to God’s ears, out of your lips to God’s ears. I hope so. I actually do.